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smullen 02-27-2010 09:40 PM

Saiga 12Gauges???
 
So how many of you have them???

Are they worth it???

I had kinda been thinking about picking up another 12 ga and then today while tinkering around in the basement and watching the Military channel and there was some special on, on Klashnikov and his designs, then they demoed the Saiga 12 and I was like hmmm....

I've held one, but never shot one.... Thought I'd see what you all thought...

desertjack 02-27-2010 09:44 PM

Re: Saiga 12Gauges???
 
I have one in 20 ga. it's big fun to shoot and reliable. You can adjust the gas system for heavier and lighter loads.

CQC McDuck 02-27-2010 09:56 PM

Re: Saiga 12Gauges???
 
I have one. It's great. That said they do have their issues though. If you buy one be sure to take off the gas adjustment knob and shine a flash light down the barrel so you can see if the gun has all of its gas ports. If they're partially blocked you'll have problems cycling low brass shot or target load ammo on the low gas setting (factory setting 1).

About gas settings, NEVER FIRE HIGH BRASS BUCKSHOT OR SLUGS WITH THE HIGH GAS SETTING (factory setting 2). It will cycle great for a few shots but will eventually destroy the gun. Basically the bolt carrier will hammer itself into the rear trunnion of the gun.

The other thing about these guns is that there are no factory spare parts.

Plan on buying a second S12 for backup.

Other than that they're perfect.

smullen 02-27-2010 10:18 PM

Re: Saiga 12Gauges???
 
Sound like I get more reliability out of my Mossberg 500s or Remington 870s...

I still would kinda like to have one, mostly for fun..

Iptuous 02-27-2010 10:40 PM

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they're totally fun.
love mine.
fun to go to the skeet range with it all pimped out just for shits and giggles..

Ares 02-27-2010 10:45 PM

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I have one, love it. I've shot skeet with it, as well as buck shot and never changed the gas setting. Although I haven't shot a slug through it yet.

CQC McDuck 02-27-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by smullen (Post 2202469)
Sound like I get more reliability out of my Mossberg 500s or Remington 870s...

I still would kinda like to have one, mostly for fun..

Everything has it's quirks and the S12 is no different.

Don't let that scare you though. They're A LOT of fun to shoot. Especially when modified. :coolbeer:

Caligula 02-27-2010 10:55 PM

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Had one...sold it during a divorce.
I miss that and my .454 puma lever/.454 ruger alaskan combo the most....

morganchaser 02-27-2010 11:13 PM

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Most fun gun to shoot that I have.

gangsta99 02-28-2010 09:47 PM

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Thing is a blast to shoot with a 20 round drum hanging under it.

Twisted Avatar 03-01-2010 12:32 PM

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When Gun Frenzy 2.0 was going down you couldnt find one for less than 800 and people were happy as hell to pay that price.


This and the 7.62 where HEAVILY backlogged


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phillg 03-01-2010 12:37 PM

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check out classicarms, they have the best prices. That I have seen.

mick silver 03-01-2010 01:22 PM

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when you have this you will have more fun http://www.mdarms.com/scripts/prodVi...idproduct=1714

mick silver 03-01-2010 01:24 PM

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http://dpharms.com/saigafurniture-c-56_162.html

mick silver 03-01-2010 01:25 PM

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parts http://dpharms.com/saigasaigaaccesso...a11361eb7fd98e

mick silver 03-01-2010 01:27 PM

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i put this brake on mine http://dpharms.com/saiga12garussians...de-p-1029.html

mick silver 03-01-2010 01:33 PM

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i put this plug on mine it way better then the factor one and it has 4 setting ... http://www.mdarms.com/scripts/prodVi...idproduct=1724 ... Gunfixers Improved Gas Plug (GasPlug)




Anyone that owns a Saiga-12, from a full length IZ-107 down to a 8" Short Barrel Shotgun, will benefit from Gunfixer's plug no matter what ammo or magazines you use.

Gunfixer's plug has many improvements over the factory plug. Installs in minutes. Simply unscrew the factory plug and screw this one in in only minutes.

Gunfixer's plug has 4 setting compared to the factory's 2!

When on the low brass setting (3) Gunfixer's plug better utilizes the gas from the low power ammo increasing reliability of guns that have issues with low brass ammo. (This is assuming your saiga-12 has all of it's gas ports. If it is missing any ports, the plug will more than likely not help low brass issues. Visit the saiga forums to learn more, including how to add the missing gas ports yourself, www.forum.saiga-12.com)

We feel the biggest benefit it has is it's 3 different high brass settings (2, +1, and 1-), unlike the factory plug that has only 1 high brass setting! Gunfixer's plug lets you adjust the gas system to prevent the high power ammos from over gassing your system. With the factory plug and certain high brass ammos the over gassing can lead to unnecessary wear, beating, and damage of your Saiga-12 and it's parts. Gunfixer's improved plug eliminates this excessive wear, easily taming the heaviest and most powerful loads. The price of Gunfixer's plug is a steal when you consider that most Saiga-12 replacement parts are not available and when you compare the cost of high brass ammo to the cost of the improved plug.

Other improvements of Gunfixer's plug... It is finger adjustable, unlike the factory plug which requires the locking pin to be depressed with a tool to change settings. With Gunfixer's plug you can turn it by hand without manually depressing the locking pin. And if it does become too tight to adjust by hand, from the gas system getting dirty, it has twice the number of tool slots the factory plug does to ensuring you can comfortable reach a slot no matter what setting your on and your furniture set up.

Lately the Saiga-12's have been coming in with the gas block's threads starting in different locations. Also some of the factory plugs have their threads doing the same thing. Either of these things cause the amount of gas entering the system to greatly vary from gun to gun. Gunfixer's plug has accounted for this. The threads on Gunfixer's plug start in the same location on every plug. They are also positioned to account for and accommodate the different starting positions of the gas block threads. This makes the gas flow very close to the same from gun to gun no matter what your gas block's threads starting location is.

Fin-Angler 03-15-2010 11:52 AM

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I love my converted Saiga-12.
Nothing better then "Quasi-futuristic Commie trash"

http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/s...mon/s12002.jpg

http://i582.photobucket.com/albums/s...mon/s12005.jpg

Handguard by fuglystick http://www.thefuglystick.com/


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